Advice.. i'm an atheist speaking to a christian friend.?

so yea. i was raised christian and slowly every day find it harder and harder to relate to them.


i have an old friend that i just started talking to again from high school.


she told me she had a bad day and i asked why and she said that her boy friend broke up with her


BECAUSE GOD TOLD HIM TO. and so i paused (this is through instant Messenger)


and said ';so god talks to him?';


and she said yes chelsie anyone can talk to god


and i said.. no.. but god TALKED to HIM?


and she said that he could just feel it in his decision. i think it's a load of sh1t and had to hold my tongue big time from making her feel stupid. so i change the subject after saying that this is something i obviously don't understand and she tells me that her and this other girl i know got into this fight


it was a huge miscommunication but my christian friend threatened to ';beat her f^cken a$s'; and called her a wh#re and a little slut.


i like both of the girls and i hate how they were fighting and i explained both sides to my christian friend and instead of her saying ';i see that it was a big misunderstanding i should probably apologize'; she said ';oh well i was never really that great of friends with her anyway.';


i seem to be so utterly shocked that i do not know what to say... why is it that I, the atheist, should even bother telling her, the christian, to be nice and love her neighbor?


i know for a fact if i did she would get defensive and stop talking to me all together.


so here is the real question. should i bother telling this friend to apologize because she is being childish or should i just leave it alone but have it bother me every time i see her?





there is a motive here though.. you should know.. before helping me with my decision. if i were to tell her to love her neighbor and to apologize i would get some very odd pleasure out of doing it because it would make her feel stupid which will probably burn our bridge yet make her a better person.


what to do?Advice.. i'm an atheist speaking to a christian friend.?
The complexity of many ';Christian's'; hypocrisy is amazing to me sometimes. They all say they are followers of Christ, but when it comes to following what He taught they always come up short. Love your neighbor, turn the other cheek, love thy enemy and pray for those who persecute you, blessed are the peace makers, and so on and so forth. Jesus never told anyone to ';hate fags'; or pass religious based laws. He never said ';blessed are the war makers for they shall kick towel head ***';. Jesus taught only peace because peace and forgiveness was what the whole new covenant was about. He ate dinner with the prostitutes and tax-collectors for god's sake! Now all the ';Christians'; do is protest gay marriage and abortion and vote for people who go to war to settle their daddy's score. He even said the whole of the old testament could be summed up by the laws ';Love the lord your God with all your soul, heart, and mind'; and ';love your neighbor as yourself'; but they all just nit pick on obscure verses in the old testament and ignore the ones they don't like. Many people in the old testament had multiple wives, but they pick up on some obscure verses against homosexuality and then say God meant for marriage to be between ONE man and ONE woman. But I digress.





I had a similar experience with Christians in general. I was a christian and I only dated Christians, but each guy I dated was a jerk even though they were ';Christians';. One stood me up all the time. One ignored me for games and high school drama. One wanted sex and so on. The last guy I dated was an agnostic. I lowered my religious standards after being burned so many times, but I raised my other standards. I ended up marrying the agnostic and I have never been happier in my life. No one has ever treated me this well in my life. It's usually the non-religious ones that are the nicest.





I would say, call her on the loving her neighbor thing. She needs to know just how much of a hypocrite she is. And go ahead and take a little pleasure in telling her this just don't let her see that you are enjoying it. Honestly try to get them to make up and forgive and forget, but if she doesn't want to do so, don't press her. If there is a god, he'll ';convict her heart'; and make her want to forgive the other girl.Advice.. i'm an atheist speaking to a christian friend.?
';God talks'; is just a metaphor for one's conscience talking.


It is useful in overcoming laziness or selfishness that prevents you from doing what you think is right.
God doesn't talk to him, he just doesn't want to talk to her anymore... Besides, God doesn't exist!
Write smaller questions.





In the meantime, your friend seems to be suffering from religious delusions. They are pretty common. I suggest keeping your distance.
';If you talk to god, you're religious. If god talks to you, you're crazy.';
The name-calling friend is mean. I don't think she deserves the title 'Christian'.





There is more to being Christian than just calling yourself one. I'm sure there are rules.
They should listen when they should go to church.. lols... dont try to change their views everyone is entitled to their own opinion
This person is not your friend. She is nobody's friend. Get her out of your life.
Get away...
tell her she is acting childish, theres more people that would like to be your friend.
Just say to your friend , ';Well , what would Jesus do?'; Then leave it up to your friend .
you 3 look like three stooges to me.
I'd ditch that friend. She sounds like a lunatic. Sorry.
Grow up.....all three of you.
I'm not reading that!
My problem doesn't stem with the point that God might want to communicate with those who earnestly seek him but that some want to use God to do their dirty work. If things aren't working out be honest enough with the person and tell them. Don't use God because you are to scared to be honest with someone.
I've heard many Christians claim ';God spoke to them';. Sure some of them maybe true, but I think most just have an idea and think that it's what God wants... When really I mean, who's to say that isn't Satan's voice telling you those things?
I would leave her an anonymous note that says 'Jesus says do not judge unless you want to be judged' and to 'love your neighbor'...I would also suggest she take a course in psychology.


Or, you could still write a not so anonymous letter and see what happens.


I wouldn't confront her b/c she will get defensive which means she won't learn a thing and you'll probably lose a friend.
I am a Christian, and I am in no way accusing you of anything in this response. Just asking you to keep something in mind. Please do not judge all Christians based off of this one experience. There are sucky and ignorant people all over the world of all sorts. There are also genuinely nice and wonderful people all over the world of all sorts. That aside, everybody makes mistakes and is selfish sometimes. Your friend may need a kind reminder of what her values are. Just because she is being ignorant in this moment does not mean that she's a bad person.
Tell her how you feel. i wouldn't want a two faced friend like her anyways but seriously if she stops talking to you cuz your telling her ur feeling %26amp; to be nice then she isn't much of a friend...
that her b/f told her that is bull i think there is more to it but its best to stay away from that. as for the friend every one has people they don't get along with its best to leave that alone too and they should just ignore each other. as for quoting the bible don't... you could say next time she starts up again just to turn the other cheek and ignore the other girl no matte rhow angry the other girl gets her its best not to show it because that probably just going to fuel the feud.
Heres my opinion:





Tell her shes being childish you dont need to involve religion.





Not much else to it. Im an atheist use to be christian but as time went on, I as you are doing, began to realize how utterly...whats a non offensive word...odd? religions can be. Christianity in my opinion is one of the big ones because it has all these things such as ';love thy neighbore'; and how you are made in gods image but if your born out of wedlock your going straight to hell. Whoops sidetracked sorry.





But yeah anyway just tell her shes being childish give a little reason to your side, and hope things work out. If possible do it in a kind way that she will understand.
She is he servant of another.,..even if not a very good servant.


You should stay out of the way and let the LORD deal with them. You may even get some satisfaction of seeing the way the handling gets done. You are being wise in holding your opinion to your self. The foolish person speaks all their mind right away; then they can look even worse than if they just kept quiet...the one with few words is thought wise...until their words show the truth.
Well, trying to talk from an atheist's point of view, God talking to a Christian pretty much usually just means to them that they feel like a certain decision is right. Call it God talking to you, call it your conscience, whatever you want. But that's what they meant when they said ';God told him to';.





Thank you for biting your tongue. That was a very respectful and considerate thing for you to do. If you had spoken just then, it would have only made the situation worse for both of you.


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As far as what you should do about the fight situation, just follow the girl code:





If she's just venting to you, just give her a hug, say ';Oh, that sucks, I'm sorry';, say ';mhmmm...and then?'; and stuff when she's talking. Listen to her. Don't try to argue with her at this point, because all she needs at this point is a friend. You pointing out her mistakes when she is still venting would only make things worse.





If she honestly asks you for advice, though, THIS is when you respectfully address your position on the matter. Don't do it maliciously or sarcastically, but say ';Well, I understand your point of view, but I think it'd be better for everyone if we just all forgave and forgot. You know, love thy neighbor and everything.';
I had an obsessive and possessive girlfriend, who I told God said our love is fulfilled and over, so she would think I was crazy and leave me. It didn't work :(





Eventually I finally got rid of her, and she is still obsessed with me.
it's a good thing you were raised as a Christian...you obviously had great home training. your friend sounds like she was raised by wolves...i'd remind her of her Christianity and let it go at that...
I`m a Christian. Your advise to call her out for whatever motivation is right. Christians are not perfect and are pretty bad people sometimes. Also most people call themselves Christians whether they are or not so take that with a grain of salt. If a horrible person such as Charles Manson became a Christian he might become a better person in terms of how he acts towards others yet would still look and may act horrible in our eyes. If he truly gave his life to Jesus he would get on the path to bettering himself but we may not see it.
And you should sit down and listen to whatever he is telling you. If you don't believe it then reference the bible. God bless you so that you will know the truth. This is not a fictitious story that you read at bedtime as some of your non-believing buddies will lead you to believe.