Friday, January 8, 2010

Christian/Religious Guys need your advice!! Can you look beyond a woman's past?

I was molested as a kid, and got into drugs and sex pretty young (14)and have recently (about 6 months) started going to church, I had never gone as a kid or anything, I accepted Jesus as my savior, I am going back to college, making new friends, and am in the process of changing my life. Also I've been clean for over two months, no drinking or drugs. But recently 2 guys I were interested in from church both said they liked me but only wanted to be friends b/c I've been with too many men, was a topless dancer, and have done drugs. It seems the only guys who want to date me are partiers or just want sex. So how do I get a nice guy? Whats the point of changing if no one can see who I am today??? I thoght christianity was all about forgiveness??? Christian/Religious Guys need your advice!! Can you look beyond a woman's past?
Yes, and so can God. When satan reminds you of your past, remind him of his future...which is specified in Revelation:





Rev 20:10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.





Jenna, Christianity IS all about forgiveness....you just met a couple of shortsighted Bob-better-than-thous....you deserve better....God has it in mind for you:





Jer 29:11 For I know the plans I have for you,'; declares the LORD, ';plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.





You said you're in college, but don't state your age....that's OK, I'm 50 and have kids nearly college age....I'm going to speak to you as if you were MY DAUGHTER:





The FIRST thing I want you to know is that you ain't done nothin' I ain't....except I'm a guy and never tried topless dancing, but as for your laundry list of other skeletons in your closet, I promise you I've outdone you in sex, drugs, alcohol and many other things I'm prudent enough NOT to post in a public domain.....I'm also a murderer. If you want details you can email me, I'm not posting information like that on Yahoo.





The SECOND thing I want you to know is Jesus is NOT concerned with your past: Psa 103:12 As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us.


If you read the Bible cover to cover (I've done it several times), you can see that if you went to Heaven and kicked out ALL the prostitutes, drug dealers, liars, murderers, and cheats....There would be NO ONE LEFT but God. By His grace, I have been clean for about 23 years and I am married to the best wife I could hope for.





When I MET my wife and we started getting serious, I spent an entire Saturday afternoon telling her all the nasty things I'd ever done, and she responded with the scripture I now give you:





Rom 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:





Even Jesus stated that those who have been forgiven little, love little, but those who have been forgiven much, love much:





Luk 7:47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little.





Stay in school, study hard, be encouraged in your Christian walk, forget those 2 guys, and PRAY about a guy in your future. DON'T be afraid to try another church...God has good plans for you. Real men love God, and don't expect their women's clothes off until the honeymoon.





Edit: Candi_k7 also gave you a wonderful answer.Christian/Religious Guys need your advice!! Can you look beyond a woman's past?
Jenna, congrats on accepting Jesus as your Savior! Welcome to the family. The problem with change is it takes others (who know your past) to believe the change. Let God lead you. If He has a special someone, that guy will love you for who you ARE and not hold the past against you. God bless! :o)

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Yes I can. The girl I'm seeing right now was molested as a kid, got into drugs, ran away from home, was a prostitute for a while. That's all in the past and we have a great relationship right now. You are a good person and someday the right guy will see you for who you are and not what you were. Peace be with you my friend.





I almost forgot. She's had an abortion and she votes democrat.
Maybe that's just those guys personal preference, for a virgin or a close to virgin woman. I'm more concerned with attraction and chemistry; if a woman has a bad past, I would just like to be secure that she is not doing those things anymore.
You're right, of course. But given your history, you owe it to yourself to get tested for AIDS/STDs.





My wife and I BOTH did that.





That should put any guys at ease who are truly interested in you, not just your sex parts. God bless you.
I am VERY forgiving, Jenna, for the very simple reason that there is NOTHING that you have done that I haven't done already, long ago.





It would take one Hell of a woman to make ME a ';Nice Guy';, though.
Wow, what a couple of jerks. Just be patient. God is Love, and it will come your way.
Hi I am not a guy but I share your experiences..I was much older when I came to Christ than you are now. But like you I was molested as a young girl and was into drugs and I was an alcoholic before I was 17 I had also been with countless guys before I was 18. I did however met my husband before I became a Christian. You can overcome this first of all do not give into the temptation to return to your former life..keep living for God and make him your priority. Remember this scripture always ';Seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all these things will be given to you as well'; even though this passage is talking about food and clothes, I do believe it applies to everything we desire. Remember that you are a new creation, your sins have been forgiven, you do not need to tell everyone about your past unless your are sharing your testimony or something. You have had enough experience with sex to not have to be focused on getting a guy right now anyway, focus on your spiritual growth and everything will fall in place in its time. If you ever need anyone to talk to look me up and e-mail me. Also remember these SELF RIGHTEOUS boys that call themselves Christians but sit back and judge you are not imitators of Christ and you do not need to waste your time. Peace
Here is my advice [I looked beyond my wife's past and excepted her for who she is, not for what she did] : The first thing you need to do is to Pray to God for your soul mate! God will send him to you, he will be someone who is interested in you, not what you can do for or to them. This means that he is probably not going to someone who you may be 'interested in', try to look beyond their 'good looks' or lack thereof and ask them a lot of questions about themselves, get to know them, if this is the one that God has sent you then he will be a Godly man, kind and forgiving towards you, and not judgmental. He will also want to become your friend first. This is something that most do not do, and this is the reason for most of the divorces. They failed to become friends first, so after the first flush of passion faded, they had nothing in common to talk about and to build upon for their future, because that future is a conscious choice that both of you must make in order to have a happy marriage that will last a lifetime. It is the choice of whether to love or not to love the other. Love is not something that you 'fall into' it is always a conscious choice. He will also listen to you when you wish to talk and will not 'tune you out', but he will be interested in your opinions even if they do not coincide with his.
Jenna:





First of all as to you question: YES I can look beyond a girls past.





You see the bible says this:


';For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.';


Jesus Christ came and died on the cross for this very reason.


Your past is that...past.


The bible tells us this:


';If anyone be found in Christ he is a new creature, old things are cast away, behold all things become new.';


When the Pharasees wanted to stone the woman caught in the act of adultery, they brought her to Christ. She asked forgivness and Christ forgave her.


He said to the Parasees this:


';Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.';


When he looked up, all her accuses were gone.





You are forgiven and made new through our Savior Jesus Christ.


You are loved and perfect.


Those guys sould read and then practice what the bible teachs rather than just siting in church on Sunday and acting Christian.





God promices to grant us the desires of our hearts.


Continue to glorify the Lord with your life and He will bring you the RIGHT man into your life.





I totally understand where you are coming from.


Just so you know, I speak from experience.


Before I came to Christ, I lived a life filled with drugs, booze, crime and parties.


I lived with 3 exotic dancers.


I have been to prison.


But guess what, Jesus forgave me.


He saw past my past and saw His creation.


The bible does not say that it is worse to have danced topless than it is to be a glutton or a thief or a liar. Sin is sin...period.


You Jenna are forgiven!!!!!


You are NEW and those guys are in need of your prayers.





Keep a smile on your face and if you ever need a word of encoragement or a friend...you can email me anytime.


You are my sister in Christ and I'll be here for you.



Christian dating with some problems.Advice Please?

Earlier in the day,my boyfriend texted me yesterday and he said that a girl that is close to his grandma said that I cheated on him,he said she thinks she is hating.I dont know this girl,and she keeps buggin him about it,and its getting to his head.





Later on on the middle of the night last night he called me because he said something was bothering him and it on his mind.What happened was that the same girl and him were in the room,and they were getting ready for a party earlier that day, she asked if he can put lotion on her.He admitted,it was just her legs.So then he leaves,and then this girl strips naked and goes in the room and kisses him.He said he didn't do anything,and i want to believe him and said he was call me later today to talk more about this,i couldnt handle the thought yesterday.We are both saved christians,WE DONT HAVE SEX,and we know thats till marriage,and I want to handle this the right way without buggin out,but I dont know how.Christian dating with some problems.Advice Please?
He made a big mistake putting lotion on her legs. Remember in the Old Testament, Joseph fled from Potiphar's wife. I don't think you can trust him. I'd give him his walking papers if he can't convince you that it was a one-time lapse in judgement, apologize and promise to never be in the same room alone with her again. Christian dating with some problems.Advice Please?
Calm down. If your boyfriend is worthy of your trust, then accept his explanation. If you don't trust him, dump him.





It sounds to me like one of two things happened here:





1. Jealous girl tries to con boy into sleeping with her. When he refuses her advances, she spreads rumors about his girlfriend.





2. Boy cheats on girlfriend and lies about it.





You must decide which one is more likely, based on what you know about your boyfriend.
Pray for wisdom and powers of discernment. You bf was tempted but he says nothing else happened. Even Jesus Christ was tempted! No one is immune from temptation. Give this matter lots of prayer, lots of thought, and some time.





You shouldn't dump your boyfriend too hastily.
This is not God's plan for you. My advice? Say Goodbye...
Shortcakes,





Good for you and youcommitmentnt to stay pure. This situation would be much more difficult to handle had you had an intimate relationship with him.





This must be so upsetting for you. Without knowing him, it's hard to make a firm judgment call, but I gotta say, it doesn't sound good.





If I were you, I would see if he were willing to have nothing more to do with this girl. The Bible tells us to flee when this kind of thing happens.





If he insists that he should still be her friend or even continue to talk her etc.. I would move on. Also, if you would find out that he lied to you and something happened between them, still move on. Temptation will always be a part of a person's life. You don't want to make a lifetime commitmentnt to someone who is going to break your heart over and over.





It's also possible that in case he gets caught, he's got the ';but I thought you had cheated on me, and that's why I did it';.

If you are a Christian and you ate breakfast, do you feel guilty for going against Jesus' advice?

While you're at it, look at the significant history confirming the ';Gospel of the Essenes'; as FICTION.








...Gideon Ouseley, who claims to have discovered it makes some critical errors in the ';history'; he presents to support it, claiming events took place at the ';council of Nicaea'; which we KNOW from HUNDREDS of contemporary sources did not happen.





...Going back a few hundred years to the ';apostolic fathers,'; men like Ignatius of Antioch who were contemporaries of the apostles, who recognized and quoted from the FOUR Gospels we now know, we see that the claim that those four were later ';extracted'; from this one document is completely without historical merit.If you are a Christian and you ate breakfast, do you feel guilty for going against Jesus' advice?
Don't bother. The faithful seem to pick and choose what they want to believe and will only belittle you for pointing out something that may actually make them think twice about the reality of their religion. Sure the majority of the Gospels were suppressed and there is a multitude of evidence that proves this but let's just ignore it if it doesn't fit into what we believe.If you are a Christian and you ate breakfast, do you feel guilty for going against Jesus' advice?
Does it say anywhere in the Bible that Jesus said this???


I've been a christian all my life (15 years). I know a lot about the Bible, and i can safely assure you that i have never, EVER heard of the Essenes before. I don't believe the gospel of Essenes is even true.


maybe you should read the Bible instead. That book is 100% true!!
There is no mention of Essenes in the New Testament, though other sects are mentioned.





they came like 700 yrs before Christ and died off during the Roman empire...
It is believed by many that the Essenes were a complete fabrication by Josephus.
As much as I respect Jesus, if I'm hungry I'm going to eat. Maybe I'll look that up though.
I'm not a Christian... I thoroughly enjoyed my Froot Loops and biscuit with gravy.





Just thought you'd like to know. xoxox
thats riddiculous, i don't eat breakfast anyway, but not because of that,
are they cherry picking again. naughty fickle christians.
The gospel of the Essenes is a fake.
Which Book is that in? 1 2 3 or 4. I haven't read those yet. I am still working on the Book of Enoch.
WWJD people??? Why are you not wondering the wilderness for 40 days without food or drink?
and then they say we models have eating disorders!
get ready for all the ';well i don't believe in that's';.

Im from a christian school to a catholic school and i have never been the new kid before..tips/advice anyone?

-been at the same school my whole life


-catholic school is very well known for everrrrrrything


-i dont have classes with my friendsIm from a christian school to a catholic school and i have never been the new kid before..tips/advice anyone?
When someone asks '; How are you? '; Dont just reply with a fine, talk about how your day has been, class, ect. It is a great conversation starter and a start to new friends =] Also dont BE SHY! lolIm from a christian school to a catholic school and i have never been the new kid before..tips/advice anyone?
try to make friends and the best out of it......enjoy yourself!!
Be the first to say hello.Join in with extra activities.You will soom make friendsand adjust to a new school.

Christians, I really need some advice. I'm a Christian also but last night I went to get a facial and massage?

(a birthday pressie from my mum!) and the beautician and i got to talking about pregnancy! I'm married and hubby and I both really want kids. However, there is a slight chance I could have concieved last week/over the weekend. When I mentioned this, the beautician said; 'are you quite spiritual? i get the feeling you are, I think you're pregnant, I really do'...was a little freaked! I know as Christians we have to be wise to this but should I have listened??Christians, I really need some advice. I'm a Christian also but last night I went to get a facial and massage?
A Christian is to follow Jesus Christ not a beautician.Christians, I really need some advice. I'm a Christian also but last night I went to get a facial and massage?
It sounds like she was just agreeing with you. Do you think maybe she was a psychic? Maybe she wasn't. But if she was, it wasn't your fault. She did it. But if ou turn out to have conceived, it's still no you problem. We should love, but ofcourse, don't let her get the impression that you're being somewhat superior to her i she's a psychic. But if she's a Christian, it could be a word of knowledge or something.
The Bible doesn't mention physhics but that they are no true If you


are pregenant that is good but the beautician must be seen as unreavealant.
Sure why didn't you. There were prophets and prophetesses in the Bible.
They could be right, some people can just tell :)
What are you on about?
wait...what's the question?
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  • Advice on alternate schooling.....ex: Christian, Military, Home-schooling?? Help?!!?

    My 14yr. old nephew I'm raising just got out of juvy 2wks ago and is already giving in to temptations of drugs/alcohol at school. It's obvious he has poor peer selection and poor decision-making skills. I'm thinking that a Christian school, or military school would be better for him, but I know some kids will find trouble anywhere! I don't want to home-school him b/c I have a 2yr. old and 1yr. old at home with me. Any Advice??? Would I be silly assuming he would improve if taken out of his current high school environment?? It seems as though I'm only trying to ';hide'; him from trouble, and I'm afraid it will catch up eventually no matter what I do. Please help me out!??Advice on alternate schooling.....ex: Christian, Military, Home-schooling?? Help?!!?
    I am a homeschooling mom and my first thought was to suggest you take this boy out of ps and homeschool, but as I read on, I changed my mind. First I want to commend you on what you are doing. I can't say that I would be so brave. And I know that I would not attempt to homeschool him with two young children in the home. What you and your family need to be doing first and foremost as Christians is pray, pray and pray some more. As for ';hiding him from trouble';, NO THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU ARE DOING! There's a difference in hiding him from trouble and teaching him the alternative. When you expose him contiunally to the right things, when he is faced with temptation, he will respond the right way. The Bible tells us that if we raise a child up in the way they should go they will not stray from it.





    Now my humanness: Christian school right now may or may not help but would definately be better than public school. Military school would be my choice because they are not going to put up with a lot of the things that PS or CS will. I know a couple of kids who were in a private school, having trouble and then tried homeschooling. They are in military school now and love the structure and are doing so much better than ever before. I'd say that the structure would be better for your nephew than anything else right now. It will be hard for you while taking care of the other kids, but you are going to have to keep a close eye on this young man. Does that mean he doesn't have any privacy? No, you can still give him privacy and know what he is up to at the same time. If more parents got into their children's business, there wouldn't be as many children in so much trouble now. There are obviously issues with with your nephew that we know nothing about but I sense that you and your husband are doing the best you can. And no matter what responses you get from others, I want you to know that you are heros! It's too bad not all kids have someone who care so much about them! God Bless! P~Advice on alternate schooling.....ex: Christian, Military, Home-schooling?? Help?!!?
    I feel for you. I've had experience with several troubled kids myself.





    Home school advocates often think it will solve every problem, but you don't seem attracted to it and the boy sounds like he'd make you miserable.





    And you're right that, if he's following up on his pre-juvy behavior by seeking out more of the same, I fear you're correct that he's going to find trouble if any is available. You may find that the best you can do is temper his antisocial behavior until he turns 18, then hope he doesn't get into any fatal situations before he matures enough to lose the wild streak--which may take another 20 years or more.





    The thing that occurs to me, if you can afford it, is a good military school or similar residential facility. In those places, they have the staff and the physical plant to control the young person's behavior through almost continuous direct supervision.





    If you can't afford it, contact Dr. Phil and see if he'll take you on his show--and then he'll pay for it :-)
    If you don't want to homeschool him, why are you asking about homeschooling in a homeschooling section? (I'm confused.)





    If I were in your shoes, I would seriously look at homeschooling this child. I would make sure that any therapy were in place, I would learn everything I could to use at home with him, I would make sure he knew that I loved him and was doing everything for him that I could.





    Given his age, I'd sit down and talk with him--tell him my concerns, ask for his point of view on things. Tell him the options and discuss everything without necessarily coming to a decision. Have him focus on which situation he thinks would provide him with the best chance of leading a good life.





    Just because I'd have two young children doesn't mean that I would not consider homeschooling. Taking him out of the environment he's in and giving him a proper chance to heal and to gain necessary skills--something that no school will allow him to do--is crucial to his leading a good life as an adult.





    ADDED: If security is a serious issue, then consider, if you can afford it, a therapeutic boarding school if there's one available where you live. I wouldn't do the military thing--this is a kid who is angry, who can't even accept the love of the people around him. Shipping him off to the harsh environment of a military school will convince him that nobody cares. One thing that comes to mind is: has he ever been assess for a psychiatric disorder? Or are you aware of specific stuff that happened before he came to you 5 years ago to cause all these problems? If there is a specific diagnosis that he might have, then there's always the possibility that some sort of meds may be useful. If it's psychological and all this therapy isn't helping, consider finding a different therapist. Also, there should be therapy sessions with you and your husband and any other able children, if you aren't getting them already. His problems affect everybody else around him and can be related to how he perceives the relationships he has with those around him. Group sessions help communication develop. It also provides the adults with instruction on how to respond to things or to seek out information.





    I would still try to sit down with him or leave a note for him that I'd like to hear his thoughts on school and family and what he would like. I'd make it clear that I'm willing to hear anything, and even that he can just leave a note if he would rather not talk about it. Something to try to let him know that his feelings do matter, too.
    My one piece of advice here is to not put him into a Christian schools. There are many of the same things that come into public schools come into Christian schools, unfortunatly (ex: drugs, alcohol). I know this because I have quite a few friends who go to Christian schools and have witnessed these things. Although I find this fact sad, I thought I must point it out.


    Good luck with your choice.
    I believe that young people in this type of predicament are making choices.


    I agree with you; trouble does not go looking for people, people go looking for it, or create it for themselves.





    I would not even begin to know if a private Christian, or military academy would take any students with such track records.


    On the other hand, no alternate school, or change of environment is going to make a difference unless they are ready to make the needed changes.





    I do feel for the situation you, and your family are in, my advice to you would be, if your family belongs to a Church, to talk with your Pastor, or youth Pastor, and see if they have, or may know of any programs that could benefit, and be helpful to your family.





    Good luck, and God bless.
    my experience with home schooling was that you have to want to do work at home. if he doesn't listen to you when you say don't drink that beer, why would he do a math problem for you?


    as for private schools make sure that they have licensed teachers and follow state regulations before giving any money up. also keep in mind that other kids like him may be sent to a military school to keep out of trouble, and when they get together they can raise heck.


    a Christian school may be the right answer. but if he is not religious then he will hate it and you for sending him there.


    it is hard for kids to make friends when they are 14 sometimes and drugs and alcohol are just a way of being included. maybe some after school programs (sports, community service, gaming club, job) are all he needs to find friends with different interests.
    I agree with Glurpy on this. By no means would I say it would be easy, but it seems to me you need to start at square one with him. Taking him out of the situation and putting restrictions in place for a while may help. At the same time, you could rebuild his character. Have you spoken to any of his counselors about home schooling?


    You have your hands full and I sincerely believe you need more than our opinions at Yahoo answers to help. What about church? Have you reached out for help there? Just putting him in a Christian school really won't change who he is, he has to be open to listening to what they have to say about faith. The best way to capture his heart there is to be living it yourself.


    I know you are in a spot! God bless you for being willing to try and make a difference in this young mans life!
    I second Glurpy.





    He's doing this because he's angry, scared, and doesn't know how else to prove that he's a man. He's in a harmful, dangerous environment and needs to go somewhere therapeutic. Sending him to the harsh environment of military school will most likely mean that you get him back angrier and with the muscle and training to do more damage.

    Thursday, December 31, 2009

    Any good advice for an Avatar of a Christian-Mormon?

    Umm...mormons do believe that Christ died and rose again for them. Sorry to tell you all, but they are christians whether you want to believe it or not. Warren Jeffs was the leader of the FLDS church, not the mormon church. Try to get that straight!Any good advice for an Avatar of a Christian-Mormon?
    An image or something from SeaOrg would do.Any good advice for an Avatar of a Christian-Mormon?
    Princess Cupcake- That is what we believe.





    Wyomugs- you are only slightly correct as to our beliefs. Mormon.Org states them. There is really no proof of the Trinity in the Bible - the trinity is a concoction of the Council of Nicea.








    Your a guy, so the YW torch would not work- Some people have temples, some have pictures of the Christus (you know the one at Temple Square).
    I'd showcase a sense of humor.


    Use the Mormon kid from South Park.





    It presented them as very good kind christian people. It was a little harsh on Joseph Smith, just in case you haven't seen it. But nothing compared to Catholics or Scientologists.





    The Bleeding Mary is the only thing that's ever offended me on television, and I still found some humor to it.





    I figured people would get on you, and Princess Cupcake obviously knows nothing about the Church of Latter Day Saints. But I have to say that despite all the media, the mormons I know have been very kind and Christian and make for good neighbors.
    You could photo-morph a pic of Romney and Huckabee.
    There's a few on here that have pictures of temples. Those are pretty cool. Maybe a painting by Greg Olsen.
    Just be yourself


    That is what we all are best at doing


    If you need a symbol of your asperations, then choose something uplifting.
    There are several of us who have pics of the closest temple to us, but not everyone has a picture avatar, many have one similar to what you have. Some have something that better represents their personality. Then there's the Senator's avatar, his doesn't have anything to do with Mormonism.
    I'm not sure if there's anything specific you could have as your picture; perhaps a Temple, or something that symbolizes (to you) the three tiers of Heaven? Then again, I like Yggdrasil's suggestion too! :)





    But I'd like to clarify that Christian-Mormon is a redundancy, not an oxymoron. Mormons are, and have always been, one out of tens of thousands of Christian sects.
    You seem to have a very nice one now. And as for the other part Christian is as Christian does. I've seen and heard a lot of people who call themselves Christian but don't act like it.
    You mean the little picture next to your name? It looks like you've figured it out pretty well to me.
    I would think anything that's tasteful and that you like. Most people use a picture, an approximation of their appearance through the Avatar maker, or a favorite image.
    Looks about right...too bad you can't show off your garment! LOL. Just kidding. I've known alot of Mormons, and they are just as Christian as Baptists and Catholics. They have additional beliefs, but they are Christian all the same.
    Don't forget the horns....lol
    KJV....you took the words right out of my mouth!!!!!!
    wtf isnt that an oxy moron?


    HAHA


    oxy moron
    Hmmm.... that would be hard. Maybe a picture of someone who is both tall and short..... or would those two traits also be mutually exclusive?
    No such thing!
    Stop it.
    Christian Mormon is an oxymoron.
    go to heel?
    whats that
    Babs... sorry to burst your bubble, but mormons are NOT Christians. Yes, they say they believe that Christ died for our sins, but they do NOT believe that Christ IS GOD... but the Son of God. They do not accept the doctrine of the Trinity. They believe that Christ was a CREATED BEING, and not THE Eternal God, BEGOTTEN of His Father before all worlds were created. THIS is the main difference in the doctrines... and the doctrine of the Trinity is BASIC to THE Christian belief. (Oh, the also believe that Jesus was FULLY human who BECAME A GOD upon his death, and that God The Father and God the Son are SEPARATE beings... Those are ALSO NOT basic Christian tenets.)





    JUST because a religion acknowleged Jesus does NOT automatically make it a CHRISTIAN religion. Take Islam, for example. THEY recognize Jesus, but NOT as being God. Just try going up to a Muslim and saying, ';Hey, you're really Christian, aren't you?'; and see how far you get!





    As for the original question... I agree... ';Christian mormon'; is an oxymoron.








    Have a blessed day.
    a picture of Warren Jeffs?