My father and mother and both Christian, as am I and my sister. My sister has been having an affair with a married woman for the last 2 years and came out to my parents a few months ago. They (and I) are trying to be supportive and love her, along side not agreeing with her behaviour ... not least of which because, whether it's a gay relationship or not, it is an adulterous relationship and there are teenage children involved. They can never come out to most of their friends, her children, or anyone from their church as most are very strict evangelical (where, it would appear, forgiveness and love are not the main preaching!!!) and so there's the additional fear of them having to live such a stressful secretive life. It's just all one big mess, whether it's straight, gay, or pink with purple spots - it's just a flippin mess!!!!
Mess aside, do you know any books that may be helpful to my parents on how best to minister to my sister, how to support and guide people in homosexual relationships or, especially, any books written by Christian parents on how they have been able to cope with the knowledge they have a gay/lesbian child and how God has helped?
Christian parents of a lesbian daughter ... advice please?
There is a spirit behind homosexuality. That's where the problem lies.
The bible says:
';For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.'; (Ephesians 6:12)
If I were you I would declare war on the enemy!
Come together with your parents and start a consecration fast. There are great books out there to teach you how to fast, and the spiritual results when you fast.
Come together in prayer. Seek the Lord. He knows exactly what to do. Find out how many days fast does He want you to do.
Fasting and prayer are a power couple. Where there is fasting and prayer, the chains are broken.
Stand in the gap for your sister through prayer and fasting as a family and break the demonic stronghold over your sister.
Love her in the meanwhile, but war against the enemy.
The Lord will honor your efforts to set your sister free and He will answer your prayers concerning her. He is a good God. He will step in for you and free your sister completely.
Not only that, He will restore your families and what the devil meant to destroy you, He will turn it around to bless you.
Just wait and see!
Heavenly Father,
I lift up this family in prayer. Lord, I pray that you will be with them in this time of need. Lord you see the enemy's tactics to destroy this family and I pray that You would step in and thwart the enemy's plans against them. I declare that they are the head and not the tail, above only and not beneath. I declare that whom the Son sets free is free indeed. Their sister shall be free by the redeeming power of the blood of Jesus.
Lord you died to set the captives free, so I thank You that you will show Yourself to be strong in this family so that You may be glorified.
For yours is the power and the honor and the glory forever and ever. In Jesus mighty name. Amen!
Be blessed :)
Christian parents of a lesbian daughter ... advice please?
If the parents don't love their daughter as a lesbian, then they do not love her at all. Their only concern, in as far as her sexuality goes, should be the affair with a married woman, not a relationship with women, in general.
you dont need a book. homosexuality is a natural thing, theres nothing wrong with it. b/c of their age, it might be nearly impossible for your parents to understand your sister's choice in being gay b/c they do not understand it. my advice to you is to watch the film ';but im a cheerleader.'; it may put things in perspective for them.
adultery and those creating the adultery is wrong.. there are children involved that can get destroyed if a family is broken up by affairs..
and I always think that if someone is willing to cheat on a spouse for you, then what does that say about that person? they are non commital.. I wouldnt want a person that is willing to upset their home and cheat on a spouse and ruin a family life, home, etc..
if they cheat on #1 spouse. they will cheat on you (sis) later.. tell your sis that..
I feel very sorry for your Parents as it is a Dilemma.I am glad that they are still loving her and have not turned their back on her as that would make her more determined to act the way she is. I would suggest that Your Parents have a word with your Priest or Vicar and do not be Ashamed as you would be Surprised at the things they deal with every day
With the complication of marriage, it's not really only about being Lesbian.
But remember what Christ said, ';Love one another';. Other than that, what is there to understand? Your sister doesn't mind cheating with someone who doesn't mind cheating.
Sadly, what evangelicals produce is concupiscence.
His Grace will have mercy, and not sacrifice
which multiplies peace, and not confusion.
Grace + Mercy = Peace.
Grace + Sacrifice = Confusion.
God is not the author of confusion, but of peace.
Noahic grace + law is not the same as JC grace + truth.
The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.
This has absolutely nothing to do with your sister's sexuality -- this is about your sister being an unconscionable homewrecker.
THAT is the salient point, and the thing you need to call her on.
Disagreeing with any behavior is fine, but even if you disagree with lesbianism, you must still love your daughter as a lesbian. It goes with all my gay, atheists etc. friends: I love them for being that way.
I can not find anything in the Bible about lesbians, so it might not be a sin. The fact that she is with a married woman can also not be adultery. There must be a male involved.
My advice would be for them to seize this opportunity to drop religion altogether and concentrate on real life.
ever tried spanking?
God says, ';don't do it.'; God says ';it is an abomination.';
Read Scripture Leviticus 18:22 %26amp; 20:13
Romans 1:25-27
Jude 1:7
1 Corinthians 6:9
Your sister can quit seeing this woman and she can quit having sex with women. We can all abstain from sex. No where in the human anatomy does it say that we must have sex. Older homosexuals seduce younger people and once the young person has committed the act and enjoyed sex they think they are homosexuals. What your sister has done is opened herself up to evil. The battlefield is in the mind. Sex is in the mind. She needs to cleanse her mind from this sexual act and rewire her brain. God gave us the Word of God and when we belong to the Lord we have the power to overcome this evil.
Sin is always ';just one big mess.'; Whenever we go against the will of God and disobey the Lord, we end up in ';ONE BIG MESS.';
Edit: This is for Midnight who thinks Scripture is vague, when it isn't.
Leviticus 18:22,23 KJV
';Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind, it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.';
Leviticus 20:13 KJV
';If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them hae committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.';
Romans 1:24-27
';Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through, the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves. Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause, God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another: men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet (due).
Jude 1:7
';Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.';
Genesis 19:4%26amp;5 The wickedness of the men of Sodom
';But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter; And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.';
';We may know them'; is referring to having sex with someone.
2 Peter 2:6-8 explains Sodom further.
1 Corinthians 6:9 KJV
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,';
The King James Bible is not distorted as are the new translations which uphold man's views. One cannot read the King James and misunderstand and say that homosexuality is okay. God says ';don't do it.'; God says homosexuality is a depraved mind and it is an abomination to Him.
The best thing they and you can do is to actually STUDY the verses of the Bible that are used to condem homosexuality. Study the original translations which use the word effeminate, and the original texts that use the word malakos.... Neither of which mean homosexuality.
When you study the verses from the original translations and the original texts... You find that the Bible never specifically condems homosexuality. The most direct verse is Leviticus, which is also vague. But even if you use the Leviticus verse, that means that you also have to be eating kosher and making animal sacrifices and all kinds of other crap that most people do not do today. Some people believe that all of these verses are talking about male prostistutes, not homosexuality.
You should also read Dean Hamer who is a genetist and talks about the genetic differences of most gay people.
It's wonderful that your parents are handling this difficult situation so well. Many Christians have drawn the line here. I can't help but be proud to see that some are able to live the love of God when it really counts.
Perhaps they may be able to find a christian support group (that uses discretion) along these lines. I went digging online for a book geared for what you're looking for and couldn't find a thing. Perhaps your parents are breaking new ground for parents in the future.
I do know that prayer is powerful. James 1:5 tells us to ask for wisdom and God will give it generously. Painfully aware that I couldn't raise my children without alot of God's help, for years I have been asking for wisdom. God does help us through unimaginable problems.
Have your parents plainly stated how they feel about both issues? And how it makes them feel? I think that they have been so focused on not alienating their daughter that they may have forgotten that they have feelings too. And they have a right to these feelings. They don't have to vent at her, perhaps they can do that in their prayer closet, or together in privacy, another creative way like writing it out and burning it in an ashtray. But they need to communicate as gently as possible how she is making them feel or I'm concerned that your sister will continue to take advantage of your parents patience to the point that they may break.
And they may already know this, but it doesn't hurt to be reminded sometimes. Have they forgiven her? Are they continuing to do so? It takes work, I know, but it's vital for their well-being to not let it pile up on them.
I'll be praying for your family. Don't forget, God doesn't allow anything that we can't handle. His grace is sufficient for you. Hang in there, I know that your family can get through this and be stronger on the other side.
All that should be addressed here is the fact that the relationship she's in might destroy the relationship of a family. It shouldn't have anything to do with her being a lesbian. And this part: ';how they have been able to cope with the knowledge they have a gay/lesbian child.'; It's completely stupid. Your child's sexual orientation isn't something that you should need to cope with. Okay, she's attracted to people of the same gender, big whoop. She's still their child. They loved her before and should continue to feel the same way towards her. The only reason they might feel different should be because of her helping someone have an affair.
Christ teaches we should love even the abominable BUT NOT the disgusting ACTS so you must tell her to get straight with Christ before she is burned.
Homosex is filth in the eyes of God. Even Hitler treated homos with disgust, where do you think he got that idea form?
Even Islam hates homosex.
There has to be something to it...homos are lucky to live in a liberal country otherwise they would be treated like the murderers and thieves they are.
Sin is sin. Being a homo is like being a pedo or murderer, but the POLITICALLTY CORRECT Athiest rabble are up in arms trying to 'protect' the rights of these criminals in the eyes of God.
What next, athiest 'protecting' pedos and rapists and murderers?
Here's an idea, why not just accept her for who she is?
If you are a Christian as you claim you must tell her to repent of her sin. You should love here, yes, but you can't support her decision to engage in homosexual sex.
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Untrue. Evangelical preach love and forgiveness. We love everyone.
God does not forgive until there is repentance. Repentance is asking for forgiveness for sin and turning from that sin. A homosexual will never recieve forgiveness until he turns from his homosexual lifestyle. God loves everyone but hates sin.
Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
1Jn 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
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Anyone who supports sin is NOT a Christian.
Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
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